1 1 (Saugus Youth Hockey meeting called to 2 order at 7:45 p.m. on June 2, 2009) 3 MR. BRAZIS: It's quarter of eight and 4 we'll get this meeting started. This will 5 be the June monthly meeting. If you would, 6 Mr. Secretary, would you give us a roll 7 call, please. 8 MR. GROARK: Scott Brazis. 9 MR. BRAZIS: Present. 10 MR. GROARK: Pat Norton. 11 MR. NORTON: Here. 12 MR. GROARK: Pat Groark, here. Dwayne 13 Oxley. 14 MR. OXLEY: Here. 15 MR. GROARK: Stacy Tait. 16 (Pause.) 17 MR. GROARK: Kevin Nigro. 18 MR. NIGRO: Here. 19 MR. GROARK: Anthony Bono. 20 MR. BONO: Here. 21 MR. GROARK: Rich Zabroski. 22 (Pause.) 23 MR. GROARK: Dana DeMatteo. 24 MR. DEMATTEO: Here. 2 1 MR. GROARK: Ken Patterson. 2 (Pause.) 3 MR. GROARK: Fred Moore. 4 (Pause.) 5 MR. GROARK: Ellen Coccoluto. 6 MS. COCCOLUTO: Here. 7 MR. GROARK: Joe Shrimpf. 8 MR. SHRIMPF: Here. 9 MR. GROARK: That's it. 10 MR. BRAZIS: I have copies of last 11 month's minutes up here, if anybody would 12 like to take a peek at them, if you want to 13 look them at. We can save that for the end 14 to accept them or not. The only new 15 business I have is that since our last 16 meeting the rosters have gone out for all 17 the teams and have been posted on the 18 website, and the coach's committee will be 19 convened next week so that we can get all 20 the coaches placed on the teams, and we're 21 also going to put down, I believe, on the 22 website the coaches, the teams that they'll 23 have and their qualifications, so that we 24 can let everybody know everybody that's 3 1 participating as a coach next year, be it 2 patched or any past experience, so that's 3 really all I have for new business. I'll 4 pass it on to you, Pat. 5 MR. NORTON: All I want to talk about 6 was to further Scott's points, go over the 7 rosters, let you know where we are tonight, 8 kind of walk through it. This is all kind 9 of open for discussion, and we'll give you 10 sort of our thoughts as to where we are. As 11 it stands right now at the Mite level, we 12 have eight players on the Mite A team and 13 12 on the Mite B team. All the teams are 14 going to be even when all is said and done, 15 plus or minus one. There's not going to be 16 one team that's stacked with two or three 17 more than another team just for the sake of 18 it. At the end of the day we just left some 19 room so that there can be some movement for 20 some of the kids who were on the B team to 21 further evaluate them. Although there's 22 only ten skaters, we think we can supplement 23 that from some of the kids that might come 24 through the Cross Ice program, so we'll look 4 1 to add a couple of other skaters to round it 2 out once we get an idea what the Cross Ice 3 kids look like and their ability to move up. 4 On the Mite roster we lost three skaters 5 since tryouts, but none of them since we 6 rostered, so all of the kids that we 7 rostered, per my records that we got today, 8 they're still on the roster. None of those 9 kids have left. We knew about all three 10 before we selected the team. 11 The Squirts, we have 35 skaters. As 12 it's broken out now we have nine on the 13 Squirt A, 14 on the Squirt B, 12 on the 14 Squirt C, and two goalies that will be 15 competing for positions in that league. 16 There's enough to carry the three teams, and 17 again, there's only going to be plus or 18 minus one on each of the teams, so they'll 19 be run across after the parity session. 20 Since tryouts we've lost six. We lost a 21 total of 15 players, but we lost six Squirts 22 and only one since we rostered the teams. 23 On the PeeWees we now have 13 skaters 24 and we have no goalie. We have lost two 5 1 players since -- from the PeeWees since 2 tryouts and both of those were rostered, so 3 as it stands now we're comfortable with the 4 13 skaters on a team, but we are going to be 5 reaching out to surrounding communities to 6 see if there's any programs that have a 7 gluten of goalies at the PeeWee level that 8 we can bring over and put in this team, so 9 we're going to make calls to local 10 communities. If anybody knows of anyone, 11 let us know. That will be terrific. 12 On the Bantams, as it stands now, we 13 have nine skaters on the A, we have 12 14 skaters on the B and we have three 15 goaltenders. We're going back and forth. 16 As we constructed the teams -- we've lost 17 four Bantams since tryouts of which three of 18 them were rostered Bantams. As we created 19 the roster, we were looking to have -- at 20 this level we thought you had to have at 21 least 12 skaters per team. It's a more 22 physical game at that level. You don't want 23 to go with just two lines, at least at 24 12 skaters it gives you the three lines; the 6 1 two sets of D. Plus it gives some 2 flexibility; the kids' schedules get a 3 little bit more crazy when they get older, 4 so if some kids are missing. 5 Our thought as it stood now is to try 6 to aggressively go out when we're talking 7 about the goaltenders and see if there's any 8 programs that have kids that want to come 9 in. If anybody else knows of any players at 10 the Bantam level that might be interested, 11 we'd love to have them. 12 On the worse case scenario, we can't 13 get any more kids, the thought process would 14 be to ask the -- would be to create one team 15 and to move the three PeeWees that we moved 16 up back down to the Peewee level, giving us 17 a PeeWee team of 16 and a Bantam team of 18, 18 which we think is doable. Ultimately, we'd 19 like to go with the two teams, but if the 20 numbers don't get there, that's the plan 21 that we have at this point in time. As we 22 went through that -- again, I told you we 23 have lost 15 players since tryouts, six of 24 them were rostered. We knew about the other 7 1 nine before we even began selecting the 2 teams. With that, I'll open up to any 3 questions or suggestions. Lucia. 4 MS. PLOUFFE: On the ones that you 5 were talking about -- if the child no longer 6 wants to play at that point, will we be 7 refunded our money? 8 MR. NORTON: After June 1st there's no 9 refunds. 10 MS. PLOUFFE: But you're talking he's 11 placed on a Bantam level now, you're going 12 to push him back down to the PeeWees. That 13 was something that was discussed before in 14 the past. 15 MR. NORTON: We can talk about that on 16 the side. That's a valid point. We can 17 talk about that on the side if we have to go 18 that route. That's a valid point. 19 MR. AIKEN: What are you going to do 20 with the three goalies on one team? You 21 told us there were going to be two. 22 MR. NORTON: I thought there was going 23 to be two on the numbers, but we also said 24 at that meeting that the numbers were going 8 1 to dictate how many kids that we had. If we 2 only can support one team, then we're going 3 to have to have three goalies on one team. 4 MR. AIKEN: How does that affect 5 tuitions? 6 MR. NORTON: It doesn't. We have to 7 figure out where we are. We just got the 8 final numbers, now we're going to have to 9 run that through. We're going to try to 10 keep the tuition at the same level. If we 11 have to make some adjustments to practice or 12 whatever we have to do to keep the tuition 13 affordable, but we don't think we're going 14 to be too far off. 15 MR. ALLEN: We have no guaranties at 16 the Bantam level what's going on? 17 MR. NORTON: I don't know what 18 guaranties you want me to give you. 19 MS. ALLEN: Excuse me, we had 'til 20 June 1st to decide if we wanted to stay in 21 Saugus Youth Hockey or not, minus the $50, 22 based on the decisions that we have now two 23 teams. Now that you're saying -- if I'm 24 hearing this correctly, you're saying we 9 1 might not have two teams. It's one team? 2 MR. NORTON: Yes. 3 MS. ALLEN: Having three goalies on 4 one team, are you out of your mind, and I'm 5 going to lose my $400? 6 MR. NORTON: We're trying to work 7 through this together. This is something we 8 didn't expect. 9 MS. ALLEN: No, no. 10 MR. NORTON: Give me some input. Give 11 me some input. All I hear is -- I don't 12 want a threatening tone. Just give me some 13 input. We don't know. We thought we were 14 going to have 12 and 12. 15 MS. ALLEN: I'm not giving you a 16 threatening tone. I'm asking a simple 17 question. 18 MR. NORTON: That's how I'm taking it. 19 I'm telling you as it stands right now the 20 tuition wouldn't change and you would lose 21 your $400 if you left, but we're trying to 22 work through that. What can we do? Are 23 there any suggestions? 24 MR. DEMATTEO: I got a suggestion. If 10 1 you end up with only one team I think you 2 have to give people the opportunity to get 3 their money back only because with one team 4 it might not even be goalies, it might be 5 regular players who might say "My kid is not 6 going to get enough ice time." At some 7 point we gotta be fair about this. I think 8 we gotta say, if we decide it's going to be 9 one team, you know, this is what it's going 10 to be, and if people opt out, we gotta be 11 fair about it. 12 MR. NORTON: Then we should have a 13 drop-dead date and go under the assumption 14 it's going to be one team, but we have to 15 sign up at some point. 16 MR. DEMATTEO: This is a special case 17 'cause of what's happening right now. It's 18 kind of like people have to make a decision, 19 so it was kind of we didn't really have all 20 the info. Now I think we do, and I think we 21 gotta put it out there and say -- if we are 22 going to say one team, then we're going to 23 say it's going to be one team. There's a 24 good chance you're going to lose some other 11 1 kids, not just goalies, and then you'll end 2 up with one team, but we gotta be fair about 3 it. 4 MR. NORTON: If they have to make 5 their decision on whether or not they want 6 to stay in the program, I guess they can 7 make the decision. We can give them to mid 8 June to make a decision assuming that 9 there's one team with 18 skaters. 10 MR. DEMATTEO: I think that's what we 11 should do and we should just put a date out 12 there now and say, you know, whether it's 13 two weeks, we gotta let everybody know, and 14 I'll make sure I let everybody on the 15 Bantams know that this is what it's going to 16 be, we're going to be one team. 17 MR. AIKEN: Why didn't we get this 18 information out before June 1st? 19 MR. NORTON: What's that? 20 MR. AIKEN: Why didn't you put this 21 information out before June 1st? 22 MR. NORTON: When the rosters were 23 released and we got some of the kids just 24 leaving within the last few weeks -- last 12 1 few days. When was the last one, we found 2 out last about -- 3 MR. OXLEY: Yesterday I had a Bantam. 4 MR. NORTON: There hasn't been 5 significant changes. The rosters were 6 posted and we just found out within the last 7 week that a couple of these kids were 8 leaving. We thought we were going to have 9 two teams of 12, which we think is doable. 10 I guess the way we'll post it is by June 11 15th, assume there's going to be one team -- 12 if that's what you have to make your 13 decision on -- 18 skaters and three goalies. 14 If you're not happy with that -- 15 MR. BRAZIS: When is the 22nd? Is the 16 22nd a Sunday? Today is the 2nd. 17 MR. DEMATTEO: I'll get it out to 18 everybody. 19 MR. BRAZIS: That's three weeks. 20 MR. DEMATTEO: I'll make sure I talk 21 to everybody and say that's the decision, 22 you know, unless we miraculously could get a 23 couple Bantam kids, which it doesn't look 24 that way, we gotta make a decision. 13 1 MR. BRAZIS: Dana, you bring up a good 2 point. Does everybody think 20 days is more 3 than fair? 4 MS. PLOUFFE: That's a definite; those 5 three are going back down? 6 MR. NORTON: If we get more kids to 7 come, we'll go -- if we can get 12 and 12 8 skaters, we're going to go with two teams. 9 If we're forced to go with one team, rather 10 than have 21 skaters on the Bantams, it 11 would make more sense to move the PeeWees 12 back down. We'd have a 16 and a team of 13 18 skaters. 14 MR. DEMATTEO: You also have to kind 15 of see what happens after the two weeks or 16 the three weeks 'cause you might -- you 17 could end up losing -- like last year's 18 Bantams, when you had one team you lost a 19 couple kids anyways, so you might end up 20 getting down where you might need -- 21 MR. NORTON: If it's pretty close and 22 their preference is to stay on the Bantams, 23 then we can allow them to stay on the 24 Bantams. 14 1 MR. BRAZIS: Do what's best for the 2 kids. 3 MR. BENNETT: I've talked to some 4 parents and you're going to lose three kids 5 definitely from the Bantams if you don't 6 have two teams. 7 MR. NORTON: Then those two kids from 8 the PeeWees can stay. The numbers are going 9 to be what the numbers are going to be, but 10 we can't throw out a team with 10 skaters on 11 a team at a Bantam level. 12 MR. AIKEN: If you're losing all these 13 players, the tuition's going to go up; is 14 that safe to say? 15 MR. NORTON: No, because if you 16 consolidate them into one team you have less 17 ice time because you only have one -- I'd 18 rather have 18 kids on one team than two 19 teams of 10 'cause now you're pushing those 20 expenses across -- you have less expenses 21 with more kids to cover it. If we go to one 22 team, you're going to have less expenses 23 than trying to cover the two teams with the 24 same amount of expenses with 10, so it 15 1 should have an impact of actually reducing 2 tuition across the board. 3 MR. BRAZIS: Is everybody okay then 4 with, what was it, the 22nd? Everybody okay 5 with that? Almost three weeks from now, 6 today? 7 MR. AIKEN: Will you keep us posted if 8 it's going to change so that there's two 9 teams? I mean -- 10 MR. BRAZIS: Sure. 11 MR. NORTON: We'll let you know on the 12 22nd -- 13 MR. BRAZIS: This isn't a secret. We 14 were just getting emails over the last week. 15 MR. AIKEN: It's brought out two days 16 after June 1st when we can't get the refund. 17 MR. NORTON: It wasn't intentional. 18 MR. BRAZIS: It wasn't done two days 19 after the June 1st thing. These people -- 20 we were getting emails that people were 21 leaving up to two days ago and we were 22 looking at the numbers tonight, and it's 23 just we want to do what's best for the kids. 24 That's all that matters, doing what's best 16 1 for the kids. This has nothing to do with 2 let's wait until after June 1st, no way. 3 We've had people leaving up until Sunday, 4 getting emails. Dana brought up a good 5 point. If everybody thinks that's fair, 6 then that's what we'll do. 7 MR. DEMATTEO: Ken, you just walked 8 in, but what it looks like is we're probably 9 going to have one Bantam team, and so right 10 now based on the numbers -- because unless 11 we can get a few more Bantam kids it's 12 probably going to end up being one team. 13 MR. PATTERSON: So we have one Bantam 14 team, a Peewee team with no goalie, I think 15 you're going to lose more players fairly 16 quickly. 17 MR. NORTON: What can we do unless you 18 can find a goalie. These are the kids. We 19 have to work with the numbers that we have. 20 If you know of any others that can come. 21 MR. DEMATTEO: If you know any Bantam 22 kids that want to come to Saugus. 23 MR. PATTERSON: Did you talk to Lynn; 24 did you talk to the other programs? 17 1 MR. NORTON: We just found out 2 yesterday. We've only known the last couple 3 of days. Lombardi, I know we have a call in 4 to Lynnfield, their program on a goalie. We 5 found out about ten days ago about the 6 goalie. 7 MR. PATTERSON: Lynn's having the same 8 problem. They have a certain amount of kids 9 that are overflow and there's not enough to 10 make a second team and they were looking for 11 someone. 12 MR. BRAZIS: At the Bantam level? 13 MR. PATTERSON: PeeWee. I'm not sure 14 about Bantam. 15 MR. BRAZIS: Oh, okay. 16 MR. GROARK: How many goalies do they 17 have? 18 MR. PATTERSON: I don't know. Someone 19 just mentioned it to me. 20 MR. NORTON: Does anybody have a 21 contact at Lynn that we can reach out to? 22 MR. PATTERSON: I might through my old 23 emails. They used to contact us from time 24 to time about doing things together. I'll 18 1 look it up and see. 2 MR. AIKEN: Did they merge, Kenny? 3 MR. PATTERSON: Not yet. 4 MR. OXLEY: Call Hatch. 5 MR. WORTHLEY: Would it be possible to 6 try to get like a group of -- since this is 7 all a Saugus Youth Hockey thing and not a 8 particular up to one, two, three people to 9 go and try to find teams of players, can we 10 collectively try to recruit people instead 11 of talking about how many people are going 12 to leave and we can maybe reverse the trend? 13 That's just a suggestion. I'd be happy to 14 make any type of phone calls or whatnot -- 15 MR. NORTON: Anybody can do whatever 16 they want to do. 17 MR. WORTHLEY: -- to get a player 18 recruitment committee together, try to work 19 over the next three weeks to see if we can 20 boost the rosters instead of talking about 21 jumping off. 22 MS. ALLEN: I'll put an ad in the 23 paper. 24 MR. NIGRO: I believe the Valley -- 19 1 'cause we talked to the Valley, you can post 2 -- I've seen it before, Stoneham looking for 3 this level goalie. They'll put it on -- if 4 you contact the Valley, they'll put it on 5 the website. Saugus is looking for three 6 position players at PeeWee level, goalie at 7 Bantam, whatever it is. 8 MR. PATTERSON: Now we have a bigger 9 problem if you end up staying with one 10 Bantam, you took those kids from the PeeWee 11 level and they're all going to be moshed 12 into that Bantam A team. 13 MR. GROARK: They're going to move 14 back. 15 MR. NIGRO: Pat, was the decision made 16 that it was just the numbers who were 17 willing to move up to Bantam? 18 MR. NORTON: We'll ask them. Are we 19 going to force them to go down? 20 MR. NIGRO: Right. 21 MR. NORTON: If the numbers work, will 22 the kids have the opportunity to stay at the 23 Bantam level? 24 MR. GROARK: If the numbers work, 20 1 sure. 2 MR. NORTON: If the numbers work 3 they'll be allowed the opportunity to stay. 4 If they're not comfortable because they 5 think the competition might be a little more 6 competitive, then they'll obviously have the 7 opportunity to move back down to the PeeWee 8 level. 9 MR. BRAZIS: Lucia, I know you wanted 10 to say something. 11 MS. PLOUFFE: I was saying the same 12 thing that Kevin did about posting on the 13 Valley website. 14 MR. NIGRO: I have another question 15 for you. If you do get a good response, 16 though, wouldn't you rather draw Bantam kids 17 for a Bantam team than having PeeWee kids 18 skate up at Bantam? 19 MR. NORTON: The way the numbers 20 worked is we selected a team and we reached 21 out to the parents, see if they were 22 interested for the second year PeeWees if 23 they wanted to skate up to kind of even out 24 the teams because you had a very heavily 21 1 weighted PeeWee team -- 2 MR. NIGRO: I understand. 3 MR. NORTON: -- and you had lightly 4 weighted Bantam. 5 MR. NIGRO: So you wouldn't want to 6 recruit more for PeeWees to make two teams? 7 MR. NORTON: If we get more kids and 8 we can get enough to -- right now we're at 9 13, you're going to have to get 12 kids. If 10 we can get them and we can get the two 11 teams, then we'll -- 12 MR. NIGRO: I didn't realize it was 13 13. 14 MR. NORTON: We're on the cuffs. We 15 were on the cuff before we moved three up. 16 MR. PATTERSON: How many kids do we 17 need for the Bantam level to make two teams? 18 MR. NORTON: We wouldn't want to be 19 any less than 12 per team, 12 skaters per 20 team. Right now we have 21 skaters, so we'd 21 need three skaters at the Bantam level. 22 MR. MOORE: Did we end up off when you 23 were talking earlier that we are going to 24 try -- they talked about the website, 22 1 putting an ad on there, but could we try and 2 call presidents of local -- has that already 3 been said? 4 MR. BRAZIS: Yeah. 5 MR. NORTON: If you have any contacts, 6 reach out. 7 MR. MOORE: Okay. Lynnfield, Lynn, 8 Melrose, the close ones. 9 MR. WORTHLEY: Correct me if I'm 10 wrong, but the maximum we can find is six? 11 MR. NORTON: You can have three kids 12 from out of your town on a team is what we 13 were told. 14 MR. WORTHLEY: On one team? 15 MR. NORTON: On one team. 16 MR. WORTHLEY: So if the goal is to 17 get two, the max recruitment can be six. 18 MR. NORTON: Kevin, to your point, we 19 can only have three kids per team. We 20 couldn't bring 10 kids in. 21 MR. NIGRO: Without an actual merger 22 of the program? 23 MR. NORTON: I'm not sure what you'd 24 have to do. 23 1 MR. PATTERSON: The biggest thing is 2 we don't need so many. We need a goalie for 3 the PeeWee level and we need three kids for 4 the Bantam level to make it work. There's a 5 big, big stretch between those Bantam kids. 6 Some kids are going to get messed up -- 7 they're not going to be able to play at a 8 certain level because they're going to be 9 held by a certain kid or those kids are 10 going to have to play up and worry about 11 getting hurt. There is a big stretch 12 between the talent on the Bantams. Before 13 it was like, Well, it's okay. We can pull 14 some PeeWee kids up because they'll be 15 playing at a lower level and that's okay, 16 but if it's one team, some of those kids are 17 stronger than some of the actual Bantam 18 kids. There are some Bantam kids in there 19 that you gotta be careful where you place 20 them. I'm talking about safety. Forget 21 about everything else, just safety. 22 MR. NORTON: If we only have one team, 23 where we place them in the league, you mean? 24 MR. PATTERSON: Right. 24 1 MR. NORTON: We'll go out with it and 2 if you go through the parity session. 3 MR. PATTERSON: Some of the higher 4 players, I know for a fact people will start 5 scrambling. 6 MR. BRAZIS: Before we go any further, 7 could you recognize Mr. Patterson and 8 Mr. Moore? 9 (Mr. Patterson and Mr. Moore are 10 present.) 11 MR. NORTON: What's the best way to 12 communicate to folks? 13 MR. PATTERSON: I would reach out to 14 the presidents, as Fred mentioned, as well 15 as post it. 16 MR. NORTON: People want to make the 17 decision based upon there being one or two 18 teams. How much time do we want to give to 19 do some recruiting? Is three weeks enough? 20 Should we recruit for three weeks and on the 21 22nd we'll send an email out with a 22 decision? Is three weeks enough time to 23 post it on the Valley, get some response, 24 call the programs; is that enough time? 25 1 MR. BRAZIS: In that case, I say we go 2 to July 1st. 3 MR. WORTHLEY: Tentatively July 1st. 4 MR. NORTON: So we'll send out an 5 email -- 6 MS. ALLEN: Right after 4th of July? 7 MR. BRAZIS: Right before. July 1st, 8 before everybody goes away for vacation. 9 That's almost a whole month. 10 MR. NORTON: We'll send everybody an 11 email by the end of June letting you know 12 how many players we have at the end of June, 13 and then the families will have until July 14 7th to make their decision. We have a month 15 to try to see if we can get any players. 16 We'll send out an email -- we have an email 17 to all the Bantam parents; correct? 18 MR. GROARK: We should. 19 MR. BONO: We have everyone's address. 20 MR. NORTON: We'll send out an email 21 to all the Bantam parents at the end of June 22 letting them know how many kids we did and 23 what the plan's going to be. Is everybody 24 in agreement that we need to have at least 26 1 12 kids per team to move forward with two 2 Bantam teams? 3 (Group agreement.) 4 MR. NIGRO: Does that work out 5 dollar-wise? 6 MR. NORTON: The dollars -- if you 7 have one team you're actually more 8 economically off. 9 MR. NIGRO: Twelve can finance. 10 MR. MOORE: I don't know if you want 11 to base your decision on money. We want to 12 base the decision on what's best for the 13 kids in the program. I'm fine with 12 and 14 12. 15 MR. NORTON: We'll go under the 16 assumption that in order to have two teams 17 we have to have 12 skaters for each team. 18 If we have one -- if we have one team that's 19 sufficient to support, we will ask the 20 PeeWees to go back down, and we'll talk 21 about your concern, Lucia, separately, but 22 if there is more kids that leave and those 23 PeeWee kids still want to stay up, they'll 24 have the opportunity to still skate the 27 1 Bantams. If none of the other kids leave, 2 we'll move the three down, so you'll have a 3 18 and 16 break, and we can talk to you 4 about your concern. Does that make sense to 5 everybody? 6 MS. PLOUFFE: Are you also posting for 7 the goalie for the PeeWee level? 8 MR. NORTON: We're going to post for 9 the PeeWee goalie. We're going to ask -- we 10 need at least three skaters at the Bantam 11 level and see what kind of response we get 12 by the end of the month. 13 MR. PATTERSON: Do we need a goalie 14 for Squirts as well; is there something 15 going on at the Squirt level? 16 MR. NORTON: We can put that on there, 17 too. It's a good idea. 18 MR. PATTERSON: I thought I heard 19 something about the Squirts. 20 MR. AIKEN: You need a second goalie 21 for Mites, too. 22 MR. NORTON: Do we want to advertise 23 -- at the lower Mite level, does it make 24 sense to advertise for a goalie? 28 1 MR. MOORE: I don't think we've ever 2 done that before. 3 MR. NORTON: Do we want to give the 4 kids an opportunity to play and see if any 5 of them might want to be a goalie? 6 At the Mite level, let's just kind of 7 see. Maybe there's an interest, maybe 8 that's how we'll get a goalie into the 9 program. 10 MR. BRAZIS: Fair enough? 11 MR. OXLEY: I think when you contact 12 the other towns, if they ask the question, 13 you know, "What level?" We're going to have 14 to say, "Well, they'll start at the lower 15 level, but every one of them will have a 16 chance to play up." 17 MR. NORTON: The parents at the 18 meeting agreed that any kids that came in 19 from another town would start at the lower 20 level, but they would be available to move 21 up through parity, if necessary. 22 MR. PATTERSON: We would go with the 23 original numbers and those guys would be 24 able to tryout just like everybody else to 29 1 move up. 2 MR. NORTON: Yeah. 3 MR. BRAZIS: Fair enough? 4 MR. NORTON: So they would have to 5 come under the premises they could be 6 playing on a B team. 7 MR. PATTERSON: Right. 8 MR. BRAZIS: Mite, we're going to 9 forget about the goalie. We'll just look at 10 Squirt, PeeWee and three skaters for 11 Bantams. 12 MR. WORTHLEY: Are we kind of limiting 13 ourselves here? Why would we not want to go 14 after additional Mite kids as well? If we 15 can get another 15 kids and have a whole 16 Mite C team, wouldn't that benefit the 17 program? 18 MR. NORTON: You can only do three 19 players from an outside town per team. 20 MR. WORTHLEY: My bad. I'm thinking 21 about going to the schools and all that. 22 MR. SHRIMPF: In the past I think it 23 was Lynn who kept their program together, 24 but they merged one age group, I think it 30 1 was Bantam with another town, and they were 2 able to take more than the three kids 3 because they were merging the two teams. 4 MR. NORTON: If we were to -- we can 5 talk about that -- 6 MR. SHRIMPF: And they played that 7 team as a Lynn slash whatever. 8 MR. NORTON: As we're looking at it, 9 if we did that, we'd just be essentially 10 bringing in -- 'cause if we got three kids 11 we're sort of all set if we can pull a 12 goalie for the PeeWees. We would 13 essentially be bringing in a whole team from 14 another town because if we get three and 15 three, then on our rosters look pretty good. 16 You have two teams of 12 at the Bantam, you 17 have one team of 13 at the PeeWees, your 18 teams are okay. The problem is we're short 19 some skaters at the Bantam level and 20 obviously the PeeWee goalie. 21 Is there any other questions on that, 22 any other comments or concerns? 23 (Pause.) 24 MR. GROARK: I don't have much to add. 31 1 When it comes time for voting for next 2 year's board I do have the list of 3 attendants. I'll let you know who can vote. 4 That's all I have for now. 5 MR. OXLEY: I have a few preliminary 6 financial statements that I'll leave up 7 here. Next month will be the final 8 statement because it's our yearend. I have 9 bank statements through -- these statements 10 here reflect all activity. I went through 11 all the bank statements and created a 12 statement from beginning of our fiscal year, 13 7/1, through mid May. I've categorized them 14 for the future treasurer in a way that I 15 think will be easy to do the tax forms, you 16 know, for going forward. 17 Couple things, I did, I think, finally 18 reconcile the Valley bill. I just actually 19 finished it today. They say right now that 20 we owe them $12,038, and based on everything 21 that -- I went through credit memo and 22 invoice, they neglected to -- they had 23 billed us for a full 45-game season for the 24 other Midget team and they ended up only 32 1 playing about 12 or 13 games, so we owe them 2 about $4,200, just under $4,200. 3 MR. NORTON: That will help. 4 MR. OXLEY: That's the only 5 outstanding liability that I know of right 6 now. With that, through May, a lot of the 7 refund checks that I've written recently 8 haven't cleared the bank, but even with 9 those in my calculation here, you know, I 10 still have a set of balance of just over 11 $30,000 in the bank, so -- close to 34,000, 12 actually. That's some positive news, I 13 think, given where we've been. 14 MR. BRAZIS: Very good. Mr. Nigro. 15 MR. NIGRO: The end of the year was 16 quiet for cancellations and rescheduling. 17 There was maybe four. I didn't have time to 18 put them on the spreadsheet. I will make a 19 final count to email over to you, Dwayne, 20 but I think the process worked better than I 21 expected. There were a lot of very 22 responsive coaches to rescheduling their own 23 games. I still think it's a little 24 unfortunate they have to pay for the 33 1 referee, but that's a discussion for another 2 day. Whoever does become the league rep, 3 I'll send you my templets on game 4 cancelations if you like to keep track of 5 them. 6 MR. OXLEY: That's the only thing, the 7 Valley will still do their audit. I haven't 8 gotten that information, but I have gotten 9 the playoff -- the bill for the playoff 10 games is already in those numbers in the 11 reconciliation, so they still could -- that 12 could go either way. They could still find 13 upon audit that they owe us money back. 14 MR. NIGRO: I've kept track. I 15 printed and saved every game cancelation and 16 reschedule and I've charted it, so I'll send 17 it to you, so if you want to cross check. 18 MR. OXLEY: Yeah. 19 MR. BRAZIS: Anything else? 20 MR. NIGRO: No. 21 MR. BRAZIS: Mr. DeMatteo. 22 MR. DEMATTEO: Nothing on the Bantams. 23 MR. BRAZIS: Mr. Bono. 24 MR. BONO: Nothing. I'm all set. 34 1 MR. BRAZIS: Mr. Patterson. 2 MR. PATTERSON: All set. 3 MR. BRAZIS: Mr. Moore. 4 MR. MOORE: I still got one thing of 5 equipment to get. They are building us a 6 new room at the -- I don't know if anybody's 7 been down there. It's about a third of the 8 size, but it should be fine and -- 9 MR. BRAZIS: They started it? 10 MR. MOORE: Yeah. So once I get that, 11 there's nothing. I'm good. 12 MR. BRAZIS: Anybody that you have to 13 reach out to, any coaches that I could help 14 you with? 15 MR. MOORE: No, I'm good. 16 MR. BRAZIS: Mr. Shrimpf. 17 MR. SHRIMPF: Nothing. 18 MR. BRAZIS: Ellen. 19 MR. COCCOLUTO: Nothing. 20 MR. BRAZIS: Would anybody like to 21 come up and speak on anything further? 22 (Pause.) 23 MR. BRAZIS: Just a quick recap. 24 We're going to recruit until June 30th and 35 1 we're going to get back to the Bantam 2 parents, correct, and let everybody know 3 where we stand with these teams. 4 Mr. DeMatteo, about the money and 5 everything, that seemed like that was the 6 fairest thing to do, so that's all we want 7 to do here, what's best for the kids, and 8 needless to say, the money always comes into 9 play. We'll do that also. 10 Has everybody had a chance to look 11 over the minutes that wants to look over the 12 minutes? 13 MR. PATTERSON: One other town that's 14 in this is Peabody. A lot of their kids 15 left, so they were looking for places to go, 16 too. 17 MR. WORTHLEY: I know that president 18 pretty well, so -- 19 MR. BRAZIS: Peabody? 20 MR. WORTHLEY: Yeah. 21 MR. NORTON: Want to reach out to him? 22 MR. WORTHLEY: Absolutely. 23 MR. NORTON: We're going to call the 24 towns and put it on the Valley website. 36 1 MR. OXLEY: Who told us the three 2 person rule; is that the Valley? 3 MR. BRAZIS: I got that from Charlie 4 Bradbury himself. 5 MR. PATTERSON: Lynnfield had open 6 tryouts to everybody and took kids from all 7 different towns and -- 8 MR. BRAZIS: What level? 9 MR. PATTERSON: All levels. 10 MR. BRAZIS: All levels, because 11 Charlie told me the only level that's wide 12 open is Midget. 13 MR. PATTERSON: I don't know that 14 maybe they didn't during the tryout process 15 pick it so that they only had three kids, 16 but I know that they had open tryouts 17 because a lot of kids from Peabody went 18 there. 19 MR. BRAZIS: Charlie told me that 20 Midgets is like free agents, but three -- 21 maximum you can have is three from another 22 town. 23 MR. OXLEY: Charlestown, in all the 24 years I played them, never had anybody from 37 1 Charlestown on them. 2 MR. BRAZIS: Is that fair for the 3 recap? Once again, is there anybody who 4 would like to come up and make any comments? 5 (Pause.) 6 MR. BRAZIS: The minutes. 7 MR. NORTON: Move to accept the 8 minutes. 9 MR. BRAZIS: Anybody second? 10 MR. BONO: Second. 11 MR. BRAZIS: All in favor? 12 (Group agreement.) 13 MR. BRAZIS: Opposed? 14 (Pause.) 15 MR. BRAZIS: You'll have to help me 16 with the next part 'cause I don't know how 17 this works. Take a short recess and then we 18 go into our annual meeting. 19 (Brief break.) 20 MR. GROARK: I'm going to let everyone 21 know who can vote. Are you ready? Joe 22 Shrimpf, Pat Groark, Fred Moore, Anthony 23 Bono, Dana DeMatteo, Pat Norton, Steve 24 Worthley, Ron Ruszkowski, Ken Patterson, 38 1 Mark Salvetti, Dave Aiken, Rich Zabroski, 2 Kevin Nigro, Scott Brazis, Ellen Coccoluto, 3 Dwayne Oxley, Lucia Plouffe, John Whitlock, 4 Bill Heffernan, Stacy Tait, Mike Bennett, 5 and that's it. Lynn, I had you as this is 6 your fourth -- I mean, Fatima, I had you -- 7 so we'll start -- we're going to start with 8 the registrar, work our way down. 9 MR. HEFFERNAN: I'd like to remove 10 myself for consideration for that, please. 11 MR. GROARK: All right. I was going 12 to read the nominees. Registrar, Bill, you 13 remove yourself? 14 MR. HEFFERNAN: Please. Can I say it 15 now? I'd like to remove my name for 16 consideration for that. 17 MR. GROARK: Anyone else? 18 MR. RAGO: I have to remove my name 19 respectfully. 20 MR. WORTHLEY: Mr. Secretary, I don't 21 recall Dana DeMatteo being nominated last 22 time, but so just to make it official I'd 23 like to nominate him. I don't know in the 24 meeting minutes, I didn't get a chance to, 39 1 but -- 2 MR. GROARK: It's official. 3 MR. WORTHLEY: I just wanted to make 4 it official. 5 MR. GROARK: So the remaining nominees 6 are Mike Moriello, Stacy Tait and Dana 7 DeMatteo. 8 MR. SHRIMPF: Stacy can't run, she's 9 not here. 10 MR. MORIELLO: I respectfully remove 11 myself. 12 MR. AIKEN: Can I ask why we're 13 starting at the registrar because you can 14 still have nominations. 15 MR. GROARK: Yes, you can. I'm just 16 starting at the registrar, working our way 17 down. We'll get to the president, VP, 18 secretary, treasurer at the end, that's the 19 only reason. If there's more nominees up 20 there, that's fine. 21 We're down to Stacy and Dana. 22 MR. SHRIMPF: Stacy is not here. 23 MR. PATTERSON: That was quick. Dana, 24 congratulations. We need to vote on him; 40 1 right? 2 MR. AIKEN: You don't have to take it 3 if you don't want to. 4 MR. DEMATTEO: No, I will. The whole 5 idea is that hopefully everyone's going to 6 take something and more hands lighten the 7 load. 8 MR. GROARK: Let's take a vote by 9 hands. Who would like Dana DeMatteo to be 10 the next registrar? 11 (Group agreement.) 12 MR. GROARK: Looks like it's 13 unanimous. 14 MR. SHRIMPF: I'd like to make a 15 motion to make Dana registrar. You have to 16 make a motion on every one. 17 MR. NORTON: All in favor? 18 (Group agreement.) 19 MR. NORTON: Opposed? 20 (Pause.) 21 MR. GROARK: Let's move on to league 22 rep. Dana DeMatteo and Matt Murphy. 23 MR. DEMATTEO: I'd like to excuse 24 myself from this position. 41 1 MR. GROARK: Down to Matt Murphy. 2 MR. BRAZIS: Any other nominations for 3 that position? 4 MR. GROARK: Let's take a vote. Matt 5 Murphy for league rep. 6 MR. SHRIMPF: I'd like to make a 7 motion to accept the nomination of -- the 8 election of Matt Murphy as league rep. 9 MR. BRAZIS: All in favor? 10 (Group agreement.) 11 MR. GROARK: Ice coordinator, any 12 nominations, any withdrawals? 13 MR. HEFFERNAN: I respectfully remove 14 my name from consideration. 15 MR. MURPHY: I'd respectfully like to 16 remove mine also. 17 MR. DEMATTEO: Same here. I'd like to 18 withdraw. 19 MR. GROARK: We're down to Mike 20 Bennett and James Rago. Any other 21 nominations? 22 (Pause.) 23 MR. GROARK: Do you want to show a 24 vote by hand or do we want to do a ballot 42 1 vote? 2 MR. NIGRO: Can we have a discussion? 3 James Rago and Mike Bennett are on several 4 other nominated positions. Is there a 5 consensus between the two of you if you'd 6 like to do one or the other; have you 7 discussed that at all? 8 MR. RAGO: I'd like to keep my 9 consideration for the Squirt/PeeWee 10 director. 11 MR. BENNETT: I'll remove my 12 nomination for that, Squirt/PeeWee. 13 MR. NORTON: James, will you remove 14 yours from the ice coordinator? 15 MR. RAGO: Okay. 16 MR. NIGRO: Make a motion to vote for 17 Mike Bennett for ice coordinator. 18 (Voting.) 19 MR. SHRIMPF: I'd like to make a 20 motion to accept Mike Bennett as ice 21 coordinator. 22 MR. NORTON: Second. 23 MR. BRAZIS: All in favor? 24 (Group agreement.) 43 1 MR. BRAZIS: Congratulations, Mike. 2 Thank you. 3 MR. GROARK: Coaching director, Dwayne 4 Oxley; Shawn's not here at the moment. Any 5 other nominations? All in favor of Dwayne, 6 show of hands. 7 (Voting.) 8 MR. SHRIMPF: Make a motion to accept 9 Dwayne as coaching director. 10 MR. NORTON: Second. 11 MR. BRAZIS: All in favor? 12 (Group agreement.) 13 MR. BRAZIS: Opposed? 14 (Pause.) 15 MR. BRAZIS: Congratulations, Dwayne. 16 Thank you. 17 MR. GROARK: PeeWee/Squirt director, 18 we have Shawn Murray and James Rago. 19 Shawn's not here. 20 MR. BRAZIS: Mike withdrew. 21 MR. GROARK: Any other nominations? 22 (Pause.) 23 MR. GROARK: All in favor of James 24 Rago, PeeWee/Squirt director? 44 1 (Voting.) 2 MR. SHRIMPF: Make a motion to elect 3 James Rago as PeeWee/Squirt director. 4 MR. NORTON: Second. 5 MR. BRAZIS: All in favor? 6 (Group agreement.) 7 MR. BRAZIS: Opposed? 8 (Pause.) 9 MR. BRAZIS: Mite director, Mike 10 Moriello and Lucia Plouffe. Any other 11 nominations? 12 (Pause.) 13 MR. GROARK: Do we need a ballot? 14 MR. SHRIMPF: Yes. 15 MR. MOORE: Hold on. Lucia is doing 16 the fundraising; correct? 17 MR. BRAZIS: She didn't remove 18 herself, so we have to have a vote. 19 MR. NORTON: Lucia, do you want to run 20 for Mite director? 21 MS. PLOUFFE: I didn't know I was. 22 MR. NORTON: Would you like to remove 23 your name? 24 MS. PLOUFFE: I mean, whatever. 45 1 MR. MOORE: Can you hold two 2 positions? 3 MS. PLOUFFE: I just don't want to 4 make anybody feel uncomfortable. It doesn't 5 make a difference -- it does and it doesn't. 6 MR. GROARK: We'll have a ballot 7 election. 8 (Counting ballots.) 9 MR. NORTON: Eleven for Mike. 10 MR. SHRIMPF: I'd like to make a 11 motion to accept Mike Moriello as Mite 12 director. 13 MR. NORTON: Second. 14 MR. BRAZIS: All in favor? 15 (Group agreement.) 16 MR. BRAZIS: Opposed? 17 (Pause.) 18 MR. BRAZIS: Congratulations, Mike. 19 Thank you very much. 20 MR. GROARK: Bantam/Midget director. 21 MR. DEMATTEO: I'd rather withdraw 22 myself. 23 MR. SHRIMPF: A person can also take a 24 second position, then if he feels at a 46 1 future meeting he doesn't want it, he can 2 give it up. 3 MR. DEMATTEO: I'd take it. If Shawn 4 doesn't want it, somebody needs to do it. 5 MR. NORTON: I've spoken to Shawn. He 6 was trying to make it. He wanted to be one 7 of the directors, so I know he's interested 8 in directors positions. 9 MR. DEMATTEO: If Shawn wants it, then 10 I have no problem. 11 MR. NORTON: We can't vote for him 12 tonight; right? 13 MR. MOORE: He was trying to make it, 14 though, wasn't he? 15 MR. BRAZIS: What should we do; vote 16 for Dana and then Dana -- 17 MR. SHRIMPF: You can leave it open. 18 MR. NIGRO: Make a motion to leave it 19 on the table 'til the end. 20 MR. SHRIMPF: Make a motion to leave 21 Bantam/Midget director open. 22 MR. NORTON: Second. 23 MR. BRAZIS: All in favor? 24 (Group agreement.) 47 1 MR. BRAZIS: Pass. 2 MR. GROARK: Next, clinic director. 3 Do we have any other nominations or 4 withdrawals? 5 MR. MOORE: I respectfully withdraw. 6 I would like to help, though, if my daughter 7 skates. 8 MR. GROARK: We're down to Ken 9 Patterson, Mike Moriello, and any other 10 nominations if there are. 11 MR. MORIELLO: I'd like to withdraw, 12 too. I'd like to help, and I have been the 13 last few years, and I definitely will as 14 much as I possibly did this year. I'll be 15 around, but I can't quite take on that 16 position. 17 MR. GROARK: That leaves 18 Mr. Patterson. 19 MR. PATTERSON: I'm here. I'll do it. 20 Mike co-captains. He's always there 21 helping. 22 MR. GROARK: All in favor of Ken 23 Patterson by show of hands. 24 (Voting.) 48 1 MR. SHRIMPF: Motion to accept Ken 2 Patterson as clinic director. 3 MR. NORTON: Second. 4 MR. BRAZIS: All in favor? 5 (Group agreement.) 6 MR. BRAZIS: Opposed. 7 (Pause.) 8 MR. BRAZIS: Congratulations. 9 MR. GROARK: Equipment director, Fred 10 Moore. Any other nominations? 11 (Pause.) 12 MR. GROARK: Take a vote on Fred 13 Moore. 14 (Voting.) 15 MR. SHRIMPF: Like to make a motion to 16 accept Fred Moore as the equipment director. 17 MR. NORTON: Second. 18 MR. BRAZIS: All in favor? 19 (Group agreement.) 20 MR. BRAZIS: Opposed. 21 (Pause.) 22 MR. BRAZIS: Congratulations, Fred. 23 Thank you. 24 MR. GROARK: Fundraising. Lucia is 49 1 nominated. Any other nominations or 2 withdrawals? 3 (Pause.) 4 MR. GROARK: All in favor of Lucia for 5 fundraising? 6 (Voting.) 7 MR. SHRIMPF: Make a motion to accept 8 Lucia as fundraising director. 9 MR. NORTON: Second. 10 MR. BRAZIS: All in favor? 11 (Group agreement.) 12 MR. BRAZIS: Opposed? 13 (Pause.) 14 MR. BRAZIS: Thank you, Lucia. 15 Appreciate it. 16 MR. GROARK: Ethics, Joe Shrimpf. Any 17 other nominations? 18 (Pause.) 19 MR. GROARK: Show of hands for Joe 20 Shrimpf. 21 (Voting.) 22 MR. MOORE: I make a motion to accept 23 it. 24 MR. NORTON: Second. 50 1 MR. BRAZIS: All in favor? 2 (Group agreement.) 3 MR. BRAZIS: Opposed? 4 (Pause.) 5 MR. BRAZIS: Thank you, Joe. 6 MR. GROARK: Web director -- publicity 7 director, I guess we call it. Bill Heff, 8 Ken Patterson, Matt Murphy, any other 9 nominations? 10 MR. MURPHY: I'd like to withdraw 11 respectfully. 12 MR. GROARK: All right. Down to Ken 13 and Bill. 14 MR. SHRIMPF: Any other nominations? 15 (Pause.) 16 MR. GROARK: I think we're having a 17 vote here. 18 MR. NORTON: Ten for Bill. 19 MR. SHRIMPF: Make a motion to accept 20 Bill Heffernan as web director/publicity 21 director. 22 MR. NORTON: Second. 23 MR. BRAZIS: All in favor? 24 (Group agreement.) 51 1 MR. BRAZIS: Opposed? 2 (Pause.) 3 MR. BRAZIS: Congratulations, Bill. 4 MR. GROARK: Treasurer, Anthony Bono. 5 Any other nominations other than Tony? 6 (Pause.) 7 MR. MOORE: We don't have to vote on 8 it then, do we? 9 MR. GROARK: You can make a motion. 10 MR. MOORE: I'll make a motion that we 11 accept Tony Bono as the treasurer. 12 MR. SHRIMPF: Second. 13 MR. NORTON: All in favor? 14 (Group agreement.) 15 MR. NORTON: Opposed? 16 (Pause.) 17 MR. NORTON: I nominate Pat Groark for 18 position of secretary. Any other nominees? 19 (Pause.) 20 MR. NORTON: I'd like to accept Pat 21 Groark for the position of secretary. 22 MR. SHRIMPF: Second. 23 MR. BRAZIS: All in favor? 24 (Group agreement.) 52 1 MR. BRAZIS: Opposed? 2 (Pause.) 3 MR. GROARK: Vice president nominee, 4 Steve Worthley. Do we have any other 5 nominations? 6 (Pause.) 7 MR. SHRIMPF: Make a motion to accept 8 Steve Worthley as vice president. 9 MR. NORTON: Second. 10 MR. BRAZIS: All in favor? 11 (Group agreement.) 12 MR. BRAZIS: Opposed? 13 (Pause.) 14 MR. BRAZIS: Congratulations, Steve. 15 MR. GROARK: President, Scott Brazis 16 is the only nomination. Are there any 17 others? 18 (Pause.) 19 MR. SHRIMPF: Make a motion to accept 20 Scott Brazis as president. 21 MR. MOORE: Second. 22 MR. GROARK: All in favor? 23 (Group agreement.) 24 MR. GROARK: Any opposed? 53 1 (Pause.) 2 MR. WORTHLEY: Congratulations, Scott. 3 MR. NORTON: So what we're going to do 4 then with the Bantam director is we're going 5 to leave that position open, and how do you 6 -- next meeting we can take nominees? 7 MR. BRAZIS: Is that the best thing to 8 do or to have Dana take that position? 9 MR. NIGRO: It's on the table. It's 10 not really open. You left it on the table. 11 MR. AIKEN: Yeah, we left some open 12 last year. 13 MR. BRAZIS: Good enough. I just want 14 to make sure we're doing it the right way. 15 Any other business to do here, 16 Mr. Secretary, tonight? 17 MR. GROARK: Did we accept the 18 minutes? 19 MR. BRAZIS: Minutes were accepted. 20 MR. GROARK: Then I don't believe so. 21 MR. MOORE: Motion to adjourn. 22 MR. NORTON: Second. 23 MR. GROARK: All in favor? 24 (Group agreement.) 54 1 (Meeting concluded at 8:49 p.m.) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24